Editors Note: This is a guest post from Streetwise Reports.
Peter Epstein of Epstein Research speaks with Martin Doane, CEO of Leviathan Cannabis Group, about the company’s international plans to grow hemp and produce a hemp-derived CBD isolate and what sets the company apart from its peers.
At the time this interview was published, Epstein Research [ER] was negotiating with Leviathan Cannabis with the goal of having Leviathan advertise on Epstein Research. [ER] owns no shares, warrants or options in any company mentioned. Readers should consider Epstein Research [ER] biased in favor of Leviathan Cannabis.
Cannabis and hemp-related companies in North America have been beaten up pretty bad over the past several months, but the good companies should rebound. To the extent that this summer’s carnage is due to the CannTrust fiasco, I think that a buying opportunity in select oversold names may be at hand.
I’m tracking 300 cannabis, hemp and related companies. There are dozens that have zero or negligible revenue today, but that could do tens of millions of dollars in revenue next year. The trick, of course, is finding the ones that have a reasonable probability of making that giant leap.
The companies that make it to the big leagues will be prime takeover targets next year by the top 50 players, 30 of which I show below. Notice there’s just one hemp/CBD focused name in the top 30, Charlotte’s Web.
One company with great potential in this regard is Leviathan Cannabis Group Inc. (EPIC:CSE; LVCNF:OTC). I love the name and the ticker! More importantly, I love how it plans to make its mark in this ever-evolving space, largely with a U.S. hemp cultivation and CBD extraction project.
If things go close to as planned, this 75%-owned venture alone could generate up to C$50 million in revenue in 2020, yet the company’s market cap is C$25 million (@26c/share on Aug. 19th). A surprising number of companies have blue-sky prospects like this. But, how many management teams will execute? How many can execute without significant equity dilution? Or, even with heavy dilution, how many can raise growth capital at all?
The following interview of Martin Doane, CEO of Leviathan Cannabis, was conducted by phone and email in the ten days ended August 18th.
Peter Epstein: Leviathan plans to produce hemp-derived CBD isolate in Tennessee (USA), with potential revenue next year of up to C$50 million. Will you need to issue a large number of new shares?
Martin Doane: No. We will be funding Tennessee with as little equity as possible. For example, we are using equipment financing to acquire approximately US$1.5 million in new equipment. While we initially paid for our 5-acre property and building with cash, we expect to obtain a low-interest rate mortgage following completion of substantial improvements.
I should add, we are in the process of obtaining a number of grants from Tennessee entities available to us due to the economic stimulus we will bring to the state. Further, we believe that we can debt finance most, if not all, of our biomass requirements.
Finally, we have an incredibly supportive group of core investors, ready to provide debt or equity capital in the most optimal manner. We can tap that backstop resource if necessary.
Peter Epstein: Can you explain Leviathan’s Jekyll+Hyde Brand Builders Inc. segment?
Martin Doane: J+H is a hybrid enterprise within the Leviathan Cannabis Group (LCG). On one hand, it serves external clients with branding and marketing expertise. On the other, it is a vital resource within LCG, adding value and exploiting the Group’s own assets. At present, probably 75% of J+H’s bandwidth is expended internally.
I don’t see that changing much over the next 6–12 months. However, next year we see J+H being a substantial revenue driver in its own right. Its margins are spectacular. Its client pipeline is significant. Its abilities are unique in the cannabis marketplace.
Peter Epstein: What is Woodstock Biomed Inc. (WBI), and why is the Town Council of Pelham, Ontario, trying to thwart you?
Martin Doane: WBI is our wholly-owned subsidiary owning the property and business associated with a 30-acre property in Pelham, Ontario. We intend to build significant cultivation and processing operation there. Earlier this year, we delivered full engineering plans and a building permit application to the Town Council.
But, the Town Council will not process the application pending expiry of the Interim Control By-law (ICBL) in mid-October. The ICBL can be renewed for up to a year. This was a “Black Swan” event, especially as the town had previously endorsed our application for a license to Health Canada.
The town’s reversal can only be explained by a vociferous anti-cannabis minority, who were able to put up this illegal (in our view) barrier to commerce. We continue to have a dialogue with town officials who recommended to the Town Council that we are exempted from the application of this by-law.
However, even though attitudes appear to be shifting in Pelham, and new residents and staff are injecting healthy doses of logic, we can’t be sure that the ICBL will not be renewed. Accordingly, we are poised to commence litigation to strike down the ICBL and protect our interests.
Peter Epstein: Does your team have a view on where high-quality cannabis flower prices in Canada are headed next year and in 2021?
Martin Doane: Canada, like the U.S., is bringing on substantial new capacity, but cultivators are having issues growing flower that passes regulatory requirements. Wholesale prices range from $3.5 to $8.0+ per gram. Retail prices range from $8.0 to $20.0 per gram. My sense is that prices will go down, but there will not be a “crash.”
Demand is increasing at a high rate, and the demand for high-quality product is soaring as consumers become more educated and discriminating. Moreover, cultivators are learning how to grow more efficiently. Therefore, even though prices may decrease, margins should continue to improve.
Peter Epstein: How will Leviathan differentiate itself in a crowded field? THC content, pricing, branding?
Martin Doane: Quality and branding. We have a top-notch cultivation team, led by Dan Grady, that knows how to grow high-quality flower. We have a similarly excellent processing team that knows how to extract and manufacture high-quality hemp-derived CBD products. With the advantage of J+H, we believe our wholesale and retail branding is best in class, separating us from the herd.
Peter Epstein: Due to low labor and electricity costs, Colombia, near the equator, is said to have the world’s cheapest cannabis production costs. Do you have any plans in Latin America?
Martin Doane: Yes, we like Colombia a lot as a cannabis jurisdiction. Our executive team recently traveled there to tour a number of acquisition opportunities. We think having operations in low-cost jurisdictions such as in South America makes a lot of sense, and we intend to implement that strategy this year.
Peter Epstein: How will your Canadian cultivation operations stack up on cost per gram produced?
Martin Doane: We hope to be around $1.00/gram once fully built out. That would place us among the lowest-cost producers in Canada.
Peter Epstein: What, if any, exporting strategy do you have?
Martin Doane: We are focusing on South America now. Once we complete an acquisition there later this year, we will turn our attention to Europe, where we have excellent relationships and a number of opportunities ripe for exploiting.
Peter Epstein: Investors in cannabis/hemp have well over 300 names to choose from. Why should readers consider buying shares of Leviathan Cannabis?
Martin Doane: Access to Capital: Leviathan Cannabis (EPIC.C) is uniquely positioned with a strong group of core shareholders who will fund our growth regardless of market conditions and who can act very quickly to capitalize on opportunities.
Deal Flow: We have a global network that pipelines non-shopped, one of a kind acquisition and JV opportunities. We don’t need to get into bidding wars, we can buy at the right time, at the right price, not an inflated one. We are seeing a number of interesting assets for sale at increasingly attractive valuations.
Low Market Cap: There is lots of scope to make money. Unlike many of the much larger cannabis companies, we are not “priced to perfection.”
Peter Epstein: Martin, thank you for your valuable time. Readers should know, this is a very hard man to get a hold of. He and his team are working tirelessly to move projects forward and achieve substantial revenue, and soon after, profitability. I look forward to continued updates on your progress.
Peter Epstein is the founder of Epstein Research. His background is in company and financial analysis. He holds an MBA degree in financial analysis from New York University’s Stern School of Business.
Disclosures: The content of this interview is for information only. Readers fully understand and agree that nothing contained herein, written by Peter Epstein of Epstein Research [ER], (together, [ER]) about Leviathan Cannabis, including but not limited to, commentary, opinions, views, assumptions, reported facts, calculations, etc. is not to be considered implicit or explicit investment advice. Nothing contained herein is a recommendation or solicitation to buy or sell any security. [ER] is not responsible under any circumstances for investment actions taken by the reader. [ER] has never been, and is not currently, a registered or licensed financial advisor or broker/dealer, investment advisor, stockbroker, trader, money manager, compliance or legal officer, and does not perform market making activities. [ER] is not directly employed by any company, group, organization, party or person. The shares of Leviathan Cannabis are highly speculative, not suitable for all investors. Readers understand and agree that investments in small-cap stocks can result in a 100% loss of invested funds. It is assumed and agreed upon by readers that they will consult with their own licensed or registered financial advisors before making any investment decisions.
Readers understand and agree that they must conduct their own due diligence above and beyond reading this article. While the author believes he’s diligent in screening out companies that, for any reasons whatsoever, are unattractive investment opportunities, he cannot guarantee that his efforts will (or have been) successful. [ER] is not responsible for any perceived, or actual, errors including, but not limited to, commentary, opinions, views, assumptions, reported facts & financial calculations, or for the completeness of this article or future content. [ER] is not expected or required to subsequently follow or cover events & news, or write about any particular company or topic. [ER] is not an expert in any company, industry sector or investment topic.
Streetwise Reports Disclosure:
1) Peter Epstein’s disclosures are listed above.
2) The following companies mentioned in the article are billboard sponsors of Streetwise Reports: None. Click here for important disclosures about sponsor fees. The information provided above is for informational purposes only and is not a recommendation to buy or sell any security.
3) Statements and opinions expressed are the opinions of the author and not of Streetwise Reports or its officers. The author is wholly responsible for the validity of the statements. The author was not paid by Streetwise Reports for this article. Streetwise Reports was not paid by the author to publish or syndicate this article. Streetwise Reports requires contributing authors to disclose any shareholdings in, or economic relationships with, companies that they write about. Streetwise Reports relies upon the authors to accurately provide this information and Streetwise Reports has no means of verifying its accuracy.
5) From time to time, Streetwise Reports LLC and its directors, officers, employees or members of their families, as well as persons interviewed for articles and interviews on the site, may have a long or short position in securities mentioned. Directors, officers, employees or members of their immediate families are prohibited from making purchases and/or sales of those securities in the open market or otherwise from the time of the interview or the decision to write an article until three business days after the publication of the interview or article. The foregoing prohibition does not apply to articles that in substance only restate previously published company releases.